we should not delay progress in these areas because we have differences in a few others. each of these issues is complex and we should have robust and substantive debate over the best way to structure each before. i look forward to beginning that discussion today. and thank you for your participation. >> thank you, senator. senator franken? >> i am sorry secretary napolitano cannot be here today, but i want to thank her and the department of homeland security, the fbi, atf, the boston police department, all the professionals who are working on this tragedy in boston. my wife and i met almost 44 years ago at a freshman mixer in copley square. our hearts, all minnesotans' hearts, are with the people in

boston. turning to the subject of our hearing, i want to thank the senators on this committee for their works, senator schumer, senator graham, senator durbin, senator flake, senator feinstein, senator hatch. i think that we need a comprehensive approach to this. i do not think you can do this piecemeal. everything is complex and related and that is why you have to do -- to fix this deeply broken system, you need a comprehensive approach. i think we have had a broken system. it has been a drag on our economy. mr. holtz-eakin, thank you for

your testimony. it will help minnesota businesses and families alike. i want to think the senators who ever done this, getting us as far as we have gotten. mr. holtz-eakin, one of the most things i have most pleased about is what it does for agriculture, particularly in minnesota. minnesota is one of the biggest dairy producers in our nation. dairy farmers have not been able to access the work force they have needed for years. one program that allows farmers to get guest workers is open only to seasonal workers, and you cannot milk cows seasonally. you could, but you would get very uncomfortable cows. i have been calling for this -- anyway. enough said. >> i used to be chairman of the senate agriculture committee. you are bringing back to my roots.

>> vermont has a very great dairy-producing culture. i'm glad the gang of eight felt the same way. we have heard testimony on the issue of productivity. it seems having access to a dependable legal work force has got to be a boom for various parts of our agricultural industry. what do you think? >> it will help over all productivity. it is important to recognize that what i think of as skills when i look on a piece of paper does not matter how the market determines skills. where are the capabilities but we have learned that people who

can run welders and skilled tradesmen are in short supply. it is a highly skilled valuable profession. the more we han immigration reform that reflects the reality a responses to , the better our workforce will be and higher productivity will be. systemlieve our broken has been a drag on the economy, and senator graham illustrated very well interesting demographic arguments that you make in your testimony. and we have as a lot of us boomers are about to retire or some have retired. so i want to underscore that point. i want to ask about the economic impact of treating couples differently under immigration laws.

two large companies in minnesota, carlson and medtronic, say the current law hurts their ability to recruit and retain top talent. they are part of a coalition, uniting american families act, and a bill will give committed same-sex couples the same immigration opportunities as other couples. i was recently told of another minnesota company, a smaller company, that will likely have to shut down because the owners, a same-sex couple, will not be able to stay in the country. this point i would like it to enter into the record a letter from the 30 companies that comprise this coalition. is that all right, mr. chairman? i would like to enter a letter from 30 companies in support of your bill. >> under those circumstances, it is quite all right, and of course we will be delighted to have it.

tonow everybody will want read it before that day is out. thank you. >> ok, thank you. i just want to finish this point. maybe ask mr. holtz-eakin speak to it. do we not miss an opportunity to strengthen our economy by not allowing lbgt citizens to sponsor their partners as residency in this country, as a matter of fairness and an economic positive? >> from an economic point of view, economic productivity is productivity, and you want to bring all the opportunities into the marketplace. the provisions of the bill i am not familiar with, and the magnitudes, i cannot guess that. >> thank you both for your testimony. >> thank you. senator flake? >> thank you, and thank you for having this hearing. dr. holtz-eakin, congress took

up this issue, the heritage foundation came up with a study with a headline that this would cost the taxpayers $2.6 trillion over some time. that study has now been discounted by quite a number of organizations. i know you have looked at that. what are your feelings on a study like that that purports these kinds of costs to the taxpayers? >> i will resist temptation to turn this into a graduate seminar, but i think the top line is i have reservations about that particular heritage study. the foundation has done a lot of good work, but in terms of that exercise, it leaves out that i think are most

important, the dynamic effects in my testimony, and the study i did. ofitage has the capability doing that analysis, and i would hope they would bring something like that out if the arose.nity the second thing i worry about in that study is the basic design does not shed light on immigration reform. there is nothing about that study that says what happens as a result of passing legislation, so it does not informed decisions that congress might face, and i would like to see studies designed before and after reform. the last i will not belabor, the comparisons and that study are between very low-skilled immigrants and all of americans, including by implication bill gates, myself, you, whatever. you can anticipate the outcome of that comparison. >> comments were made about the number of immigrants coming in who are regularized who then take welfare benefits.

can you speak to that? >> again, it was not tied to a particular reform exercise, and i think you have to be careful about the assumptions you make. we know the labor force participation of first- generation immigrants is higher than the native-born. you go to the second generation where people worry about public programs, more college degrees in second-degeneration than native-born, higher rates of labor force participation. among those -- it is not the case that program participation is higher than in the native- board population on the whole. >> thank you. you mentioned that you believe the number of illegal immigrants currently here exerted downward pressure on wages. is that accurate? >> that is correct. >> and a regular rising in that

population would still have some downward pressure on wages? >> that is correct. >> is it accurate to say -- the alternative would be continue in the current path of allowing these illegal immigrants to work in the work force, exerting that downward pressure, or have some plan to deport them or take them out of the work force. do you see that as a reasonable measure to somehow remove them from the work force short of some kind of reform like this? >> i do not think those are viable alternatives. there are other alternatives. it is not a question between regularization. there are a lot of intermediate steps that the committee may want to take a look at. one of the things is i think -- and i have not looked at all 900 pages -- but taking steps to ensure that it is difficult rogue employers to employ illegal immigrants or employ anybody outside the former of

existing law would be very salutary. we can do that. there are a number of conditions we can employ short of deportations, but if we do that that we will get to far the process of making everybody in america is paid the way they're supposed to be paid, not working under substandard conditions. >> you are aware of testimony from groups like the group that you use represent, the national association of manufacturers, saying they cannot find the skilled labor they need among our work force now and that the economy would benefit some with some kind of program to allow others to come in. you concede any economic benefit like dr. holtz-eakin does to this kind of reform? >> i would yield to doug on a

number of issues related to the economic benefits. however, there is a significant downward pressure on a whole host of occupational categories by regularization. that is unequivocal. i think we have had at least two hearings before the civil rights commission where there was at least near unanimity that that is the case. i do think that we should have some type of immigration reform. i think immigration must be had th resct tdo that any considered fashion so that there is a group of people, and especially low-skilled americans, who are not thrown under the bus. i hear discussion about benefits to the united states economy. but most skilled americans are significant parts of that economy, and they are being excluded from this discussion. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> like all of you, i appreciate the time you have spent with me in the briefings before we set these hearings. i know you have had to juggle your schedules to do that, but i thought it was a productive

meeting. i was struck by the democrats and republicans, struck by the complete absence of partisanship in that meeting. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i am pleased that the gang of eight has reached an agreement and produced a bill that will overhaul the current immigration system in ways that will provide help to millions of individuals and families have had, and the three of the gang of eight members are members of this committee, and i thank them, senators schumer, durbin, flake, and chairman lee. so many other members, feinstein, hatch, had tremendous input into this bill. dr. holtz-eakin, there are economic considerations throughout this bill. mr. chairman, i spend some time and focus on families in my remarks, and i start by saying the family unity is very much a

part of economic success for immigrants. family unity issues, economic success, economic vitality, these are not either/or propositions. those two should go together in my view. this bill will help some families to reunite, but for others, especially from asian countries, it will dramatically restrict the ability of families to reunite with certain loved ones, which has been the basis of our immigration system since 1965. while i understand compromises had to be made, i believe that in some areas this bill is more restrictive than necessary, and of course i will join my colleagues in continuing to improve this bill. specifically, s744 eliminates a category and replaces it with a merit-based point system. i believe the new system could exclude many immigrant family members from reuniting with their u.s. citizen siblings.

this is troubling, because siblings are an integral part of family structure. they support and help each other find jobs, provide both an emotional and financial support, and care for each families. a addition, many times sibling may be your only family member. ar example, i recently met woman named nadine whose brother is her only remaining family member. and are extremely close have been separated for many years. i'm concerned that cases like

nadine's will no longer have a meaningful opportunity to petition for their sibling. i would also like to see improvement in the family system to include lbgt families, brought up by my colleague senator franken, and the children of filipino world war ii veterans, and we are joined at this hearing by some of our filipino world war ii veterans who have been separated from their children. mr. chairman, i look forward to continue discussions and the opportunity to improve this legislation. there have already been comments on the visa program, which i support, and i yield the remainder of my time. thank you. >> thank you, and i thank everybody who has been here. this has been a good hearing. we are arranging the times for secretary napolitano to be here. i think all of us realize with what is going on by the secretary of homeland security is at homeland security, even

as i receive ongoing briefings the circumstances there -- should be. i thank everybody for taking the time, and we will have another hearing on monday. we are arranging another day for secretary napolitano. i think the two witnesses who came here to rearrange their schedules on short notice. appreciate it. it is what makes the committee work. i would also note for the record that as you go back over your notes on what to do and to any of your answers, i will keep the record open for that.

we're not playing a game of -- we are just trying to have the best possible record. i thank both parties for being here. we stand in recess until the call the chair. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]

>> arizona senator john mccain and lindsey graham of south carolina have released a statement on the importance of immigration reform to america's national security. it said, in the wake of the terrorist attack in boston, some have suggested the circumstances of this tragedy are justifications for delaying or stopping entirely comprehensive immigration reform. the opposite is true. the immigration reform will strengthen our nation's security by helping us identify who has entered our country and who has left. a basic function of government that our broken immigration system is incapable of accomplishing today. the status quo is unacceptable. the f-35 -- is the most

expensive airplane in our history. it is a fighter plane to be used by the navy and the marine corps. it is a replacement for the f- 16. new, supposed to be our advanced, all-purpose fighter jets. it is supposed to be in the skies fighting. it is still in development. it is an incredibly troubled program. it has gone tens of billions of dollars over budget. borrowed into this program as a way to write about the troubled defense budget. this program is singular in terms of its cost overruns, is delays, and the way it is structured. is first defensive attributes may not be a trained nurse and sensors and missiles and technology and the ability to

fly and super science speech. it may be the way it has been designed to alleviate budget coverage. 8:00 p.m. on c- span's "q & a." authorities hold a news conference after the rest of the second suspect in the boston marathon bombings. speakers include massachusetts governor deval patrick and boston chief -- police commissioner and davis. this is about 20 minutes. >> we are so grateful to be here right now. we are so grateful to bring justice in closure to this case, to those families lost loved suffered injuries they will have to live with for the rest of the lives. for a police officer, a young man starting a career at mit, and a police officer with the

life,ho almost lost his and neighborhoods who lives in terror for an entire day. we have a suspect in custody. i want to thank all of the partners who worked tirelessly over the last seven days, including the fbi, the transit police, our brothers with the boston police department, the u.s. attorney's office and the support we have gotten from our governor over the last amadeus. we are exhausted, but we have a victory here -- over the last four days. we are exhausted, but have a victory tonight. the victims and the mit officer who was lost last night and the transit police officer who was injured, on behalf of the hundreds of

people who were hurt by the explosions at the marathon, i want to say how grateful i am to the colonel, to special agent in charge and all of the law enforcement who works so well and so hard together to bring us to to night's conclusion. it was a very complicated case, a challenging case. there are still some questions remaining to be answered. because of that extraordinary collaboration and cooperation by all of these law enforcement resources and assets and people game, ought their a -- a- we have a suspect in custody tonight. i want to thank the members of the public for their participation in this investigation by reviewing photographs of their own and

through the media. and helping us narrow in on the suspects. they were helpful and patients and we are grateful for that. it is a night where we are going to rest easy. good evening. i am the united states attorney, carmen ortiz. the governor and the colonel have put it tremendously well. we feel a tremendous sense of gratitude and relief. this community and this neighborhood has endured an ordeal over the last 24 hours. tonight, we can sleep a bit easier. horrific, andble, heroic acts that have occurred over the last several days, starting with the terrible

bombing attacks that occurred on notay, here we are, and forgetting the victims of the crimes that have occurred over the last several days, the martin,of the bombings, linzi, our prayers are with their families. tonight, you will have many questions. has been an active and ongoing investigation. ar some of you, tonight is closure. for me, the journey continues. this will continue to be an ongoing and active investigation as we continue to a tremendous amount of evidence and file formal

charges. i have never been more proud to stand with a tremendous group of law enforcement, from the kernel to the commissioner to my federal colleagues with the fbi. agencies, federal state and local departments who have worked so hard since the attacks on monday, so committed, putting their lives on the line as we sought the last 24 hours to try to pick a suspect into custody. my journey in my office's journey begins. the investigation will continue. we may not be able to provide the details you want at this time. as the days continue, you would insist to those questions. >> i just want to say briefly, thank you, thank you, thank you. thank you to the law enforcement officials who work together, the

state police, the fbi, all working together. i want to thank the citizens out there. today, because of the hard work of so many individuals, the boston police working with the state police, we have the conclusion all are satisfied with. we shall go on and we will get back. to all of you folks in the media, thank you for the support you gave us this past week. i spent a lot of time with the law enforcement officials. it worked so hard to bring this to a conclusion. the day and night. we say thank you to them for the work they did.

they track down every one of those leads. i feel so good about this. i am so happy that the people in the greater boston area are able toleep tonight. >> good evening. i am the special agent in charge of the fbi's boston division. it seems like many months since monday, april 15, the day of the boston marathon bombings. he has been five days since the tragic explosions that took two -- three lives and critically injured over one hate -- 180 spectators and created fear in the city of boston, the commonwealth of massachusetts and elsewhere.

can breathe aes sigh of relief knowing that the two perpetrators that cost so much pain and anguish are no longer a threat to our personal safety and our communities. together with the action and support of our joint terrorism task force partners, many of whom are on the stage with me this evening, the fbi and our partners remain vigilant and continue to follow through thousands of leads and sifting through thousands of tips to reach this moment. this was an intense investigation. result of that, justice is being served for the victims of these terrible crimes. the fbi purseess partners. they have kept the city of

boston and the commonwealth of massachusetts state. of --you for our support i thank each and everyone of you tonight. >> four days ago my city was ruthlessly attacked. there is no explaining this savagery involved. there is no explanation for it. this is the last several days looking at hundreds of hours of videotape. i got to see how brutal that attack was over and over and over again. more importantly, i got to see with the boston police officers who responded to that scene,

along with the medical personnel and the other first responders did to put people back together. turning kids -- you can -- tourniquets, putting out fires with their hands. it makes me proud to the a boston police officer. in makes me proud to be a part of this team. rick laurier from the fbi could not be more cooperative. we sat together almost hour for hour for the last four days, sharing every single bit of information. carmen ortiz, with us all the time. and then, to bring the governor and the mayor together, meeting the city of boston and responding to this. i finally just want to say that the citizens of the city has been incredible. they have been patient with us, they have endured an enormous amount of heartache and i duration of the last four days. we are very happy to try and put this back together. 90. >>-- thank you. >> as the police chief of watertown, i can't be prouder of my community and the men and women of the police apartment. what we have been through the

last one to four hours i would not want to see another police department go through. the support that we have had from all the different agencies mentioned tonight over the last one to has been incredible. see so many agencies work together with the governor, with the mayor of boston and our officials and watertown has been really great. i have spoken to the people and watertown before, but i can't thank you enough. the community stood strong and it was a call from a resident and watertown, we asked you to remain vigilant and you did. we got that call and we got a guy. we can't thank you enough. you have done everything and more that we have asked. extremely proud of law enforcement today and what we have accomplished. thank you. >> i just want to thank all those who sent their thoughts and prayers to officer donahue and his family.

it was deeply appreciated. thank you. i also want to commend all the law enforcement agencies who took part in this -- this is truly dedication and commitment at its best. i am proud to be part of it. thank you. >> my name is joseph, special -- >> around there. worlday the entire witnessed this law enforcement community commitment to apprehending these offenders. make no doubt that this combined effort will never cease in the protection of every city, every town, and every neighborhood in our nation. the prayers from every employee will continue to go out to the victims as they heal from this senseless act of violence. god bless the citizens.

>> thank you very much. i was listening to the police action all afternoon on the radio. --ould like to join my voice add my voice to those who came before me to say what an extraordinary police operation across all jurisdictions that i was able to listen to and witnessed today. i was at the scene early on. in our business, carmen, myself, it is about accountability. i can't say how happy i am, how pleased i am that the second subject was taken alive. as will ensure accountability for the victims and their family. congratulations to all for a job very well done. now the task ahead for accountability. thank you. >> [indiscernible] tracked there was a call that came into the watertown police. three boston police officers along with state troopers and

fbi agents responded to franklin street. a man had gone out of his house after being inside all day, abiding by our request to stay inside. he walked outside and saw blood on a boat in the backyard. he then opened the tarp on top of the boat and look in and saw a man covered with lead. he retreated and called us. we set up a perimeter around the boat and over the course of the next hour or so, we exchanged gunfire with the suspect inside the boat route ultimately, the fbi made an entry into the boat and removed the suspect who was still alive in the boat. >> can you talk about the imperatives of taking him alive? >> we always wanted a gull suspects alive. >> can you talk about it in the context -- you talk about accountability. why you want to take him alive? >> we always want to take them alive to find out what happened, why it happened a mechanism for justice.

>> [indiscernible] >> the rescue team did work in trying to negotiate him out of that boat. they did try to talk him out. from what i understand he was not convinced -- communicative. >> [indiscernible] >> i don't have that information. >> talk about the suspect injuries? >> this is it? >> based on our investigation, the citizens of boston and this area can be confident that the threat has been removed. the suspect is in serious condition at the hospital. >> had a you know these are the suspect you are in for yucca -- for? >> the suspect came to our attention after a vicious assassination of a police

officer at mx he -- m.i.t. and a subsequent robbery that occurred. we have videotape from a gas station. the robbery was a carjacking. officers engaged that car from the watertown police department and other officers. we were able to the case together. >> when you are apprehending him, was he shot by police officers? >> the man who fundamentally boat said he was covered with blood. we assume those injuries occurred the evening before. there was an exchange of gunfire at the boat. i don't know if he was struck. there was a house in new bedford that the rescue team and into for the fbi, because we felt that it was important to the investigation but he was not founded there. bitan you tell us a little more -- was he shot in cold blood [indiscernible] ?

that assessment of incident is that he was assassinated in his cruiser. he was responding to a call for a discordant. >> given that he was out there must still armed, was it a mistake to give the all clear and let people go outside? givencertainly did not all clear. we made it clear that people, this was a very serious and dangerous situation. we had no information that the suspect was still in this particular area. he managed to elude us by being slightly outside of the perimeter we have set up. injuries, -- in truth, we told everybody this is a dangerous situation and they should be cautious. this is a very dangerous time in the world. we have to use caution. that is what we ask people to do. the man who found the suspect called us right away. we were able to come in and take care of the situation. >> [indiscernible]

>> no report of vix low since with him at the capture. i was at the scene last after the incident occurred. there was an exchange of over two hundred rounds of gunfire, improvised explosive devices and handmade hand grenades thrown at the officers. this is the stuff that in an urban police department, it is almost unheard of. these officers acted heroically and protect the community and elected -- protected each other. i am so proud of the actions of the watertown police, state police, the boston police, it has been an incredible team. >> did he have a weapon and the boat? >> i was told there was an exchange of gunfire. i was not there when he was taken out of the boat. >> no miranda warning could you explain that? >> the fbi may want to explain

that in a federal issue. >> had the boat then searched earlier in the day? >> know it had not. rights no miranda warning. >> there is a public safety exemption in cases of national security and potential charges involving acts of terrorism. the government has the opportunity right now, though i believe the suspect has been taken to a hospital. thank you. >> [indiscernible] >> this is still an ongoing investigation. we will be reviewing all of the evidence. before that canada decision is made, in terms of whether or not to seek the death penalty, you review all of the evidence and it is a very thoughtful, on process that is engaged.

it is the attorney general of the department of justice that make that final decision. >> [indiscernible] straight to the boat. can you talk about what happens when you are on the scene, was he moving around? how did you know there was a chance to take him into custody ? >> we know he did not go straight to the goat area on the set up a perimeter with the best intentions with a lot of information. we found blood behind the house inside the perimeter. we had information that he had gotten outside the perimeter. it was chaotic early this morning. we had a police officer that was shot that we had to aid. without we got the perimeter solid and three much did that. we were about one block away. he had to be moving in little bit after, he was behind a house for a time.

>> how did you know you can take him into custody? oure reason we knew, helicopter had detected the subject and the boat area we have a forward-looking infrared device from a helicopter. he picked up the heat signature of the individual in the he was underneath a cover on the boat itself areas there was movement from that point on. the helicopter was able to direct the tactical teams to that area and ultimately take him into custody. it was outside the perimeter during the day, it is not searched. this is the act of a citizen that went out and discovered this individual in the boat. and alternately called the watertown police department and resulted in this result. >> [indiscernible]

is there a chance the suspect won't make it and won't live to tell the story? >> i know he is in serious condition, but i don't know to what extent. i think we have taken enough questions for now. thank you. >> president obama spoke briefly from the white house following the arrest of the second suspect at the boston marathon. he also took a moment to talk about the victims at the fertilizer plant explosion in west, texas. >> good evening, everybody.

in debt our nation is to be people of boston and the people of massachusetts. after a vicious attack on the city, bostonian responded with resolve and determination. they did their part as citizens and partners in this investigation. boston police and state police and local police across the commonwealth of massachusetts responded with professionalism and reverie over five long days. tonight, because of their long efforts, we closed an important chapter in this tragedy. i have been briefed by fbi director smaller. -- the fbi director. i directed the resources of the federal government to help with the best addition in to increase security as needed. over the past week, close coordination over federal, state, and local officials,

sharing information, moving to track down leads, has been critical to this effort. in of all work as they should, as a team, we are extremely grateful to that -- for that and to all our outstanding law- enforcement officials. these men and women get up every day and put on their uniform and risked their lives to keep us say. as this week that showed, they do not always know what to expect. our thoughts are with those who were wounded in pursuit of the suspects and we prayed for their recovery. family,for the collier to grieve the loss of their brother and their son. he was born to be a police officer. he was just 26 years old. his family has said he died bravely, in the line of duty, doing what he committed his life to doing, serving at protecting others. we are grateful to him.

manyht, there are unanswered questions. among them, why did young men who grew up and study here as part of our communities and our country resort to such violence? how did they plan and carry out these attacks and did they receive any help? killedilies of those deserve answers. the wounded, some of whom have to learn how to stand and what can live again deserve answers. i have instructed the fbi and the part of homeland security and our intelligence community to continue to deploy all of the map -- necessary resources to help the investigation, to collect evidence and help our citizens. we will determine what happens. we will investigate any associations these terrorists may have had and we will continue to do we have to do to

keep our systems face. one thing we do know, whatever hateful agenda that drove these men to such hispanic nouse acts cannot prevail. whatever they thought they not achieve. they failed because boston refused to be intimidate. as americans we refuse to be terrorized. they failed because we will never waiver from the compassion that defines us from the country. nor will we break the bonds that holds us together as americans. that american spirit includes staying true to the unity and diversity that makes us strong. like no other nation in the world. in this stage of instant, reporting blogs, tweeting there is a temptation to latch on to any bit of information, sometimes to jump to conclusions. but when a tragedy like this happens with public safety at

risk and the stakes so high it is important that we do this right. that's why we have investigations. th'why we relentlessly gather the facts. that's why we have courts. that's why we take care not rush to judgment, not about the motivations of the individual, certainly not about entire groups of people. after all, one of the things that makes america the greatest nation on earth but also what makes boston such a great city is we welcome people from all around the world, people of every faith, every ethnicity, every corner of the global. as we learn about why and how this tragedy happened, let's make sure we sustain that spirit. theght, we think of all wounded still struggling to recovery. certainly we think of charles

krauthammer, we think of lingzi lu, we think of little martin richard. their lives re -- reflected the beauty of our country and they were sharing a great american experience together. flinle, let me say that even as so much attention that is been focused on the tragic events in boston, understandably. we've also seen a tight knit community in texas devastated by an explosion. they are not forgotten. our thoughts and prayers are with the people of west, texas where so many people lost their lives, some lost their homes, many are injured, many are still miss pfing i talked to perry and i pledged that the people of west will

have the resources they need to rebuild. i want the people of texas to know we will follow through with this commitment. all in all, it has been a tough week. but we've seen the character of our country once more. as president, i'm confident that we have the courage and the resilience and the spirit to overcuck these challenges and to go -- overcome these challenges and to go forward under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. thank, everybody. "newsmakers," the chairman of the immigration task force talks about an immigration bill

in the house. newsmakers, sunday at 10:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on c-span. documentary calls from clearwater high school in florida. her message to the president focuses on reducing gun violence in schools. it is a second prize winning video. >> abcdefghijklmnop. now i know my abcs. next time, won't you sing with me.

this video is not about gun reform. it is not about gun laws. it is a story. it is a story about what could have prevented the loss of innocent lives and protect the ones of the future. ago, my mother attended high school. member a cheerleader, a of the honors choir. it was ary 11, 1988, day like any other day. she and her friends or eating lunch in the comments area when chaos erupted. >> there was a loud noise. people started screaming. kids were crying. it was so confusing. a first thought there must be a fight. then i saw all of these kids

running toward us. tables were turned over and lunch plates were hitting the ground. people were screaming, there is a gun. two sophomores had brought guns to school. ss was the only one who fired. the teacher was critically injured. a well-respected the minister was steadily wounded. >> never did i think there was a gun in my school or that someone had just been shot and killed. confused,s were devastating, scared. long gone were the days when schools were considered a safe haven. stews were told it was an isolated incident and would never happen again. here we are 25 years later which

massacres such as columbine, virginia tech, and the newtown shootings. what is the solution? and national affairs columnist explains. >> we have a large part of the country that wants to focus on the instrument for these evil deeds, guns. other people want to focus on the criminally insane or the criminal minds behind these horrific incident. >> what is the answer? gun owners would believe ak-47s believe in the >> to create ars national database of the mentally ill. fortify our schools. updates cool designs to massey

dangerous times we live in. implement metal detectors. note solutions may completely eradicate weapons bringing -- coming into our schools. at least we know we took the action step, we took the extra mile to prevent it from happening. an international business leader and high school teacher. seen in many countries in egypt, saudi arabia, france, .pain defense is a brick fence. >> you could redesign the schools to make it harder to get into the schools.

if there are 20 or 30 ways into the school, there is no way you can cover all those areas. many school doors only include a lot on the outside. in an emergency situation, a teacher would have to leave the classroom, go into the hallway, and locked the door. these teachers do not have to worry about doors because they do not have any. >> we do not have doris on our classroom. if there was a reason we had to go into a lot done, i would not have a way to protect the kids in my classroom. pod stores.

way with a lotme of them in a crisis or a situation that would make the individual safer in our class. >> this was not necessarily my own idea. but i was inspired. >> my senior year, we were given a writing assignment. it was to write a letter and talk about where we thought we would be 10 years from now. a 17-year-old senior. i thought, for sure, 10 years from the time the strategy to place, we would have metal detectors. in schools?ectors as extreme as it sounds, it is not that bad of an idea. why is it safer to put them in an airport? wise is safer to go into the courthouse to vote but somewhere children are required to go every single day, they are not

safe. joe biden made a statement that important for this issue. was one of the survivors of three virginia tech massacre. he said, i am not here because of what happened to me. i am here because what happened to me keeps happening to other people. we have to do something about it. >> we need to go back to the basics when decisions were not based on money or politics, when they were based on protecting our future. people will always find guns. it will always find weapons. we need to guard ourselves against that and we need to do it now. we should have done it 25 years ago. it has been done to decades

since that shooting. we have no excuse. allenan to mr. richard and the hundreds of lives that have been lost in school shootings. >> congratulations to all of the winners in this year's studentcam competition. to see more winning videos, go to studentcam.org. next, a discussion on u.s.- mexico relations. then a remark from the president of iceland. this morning, a roundtable discussion on the use of surveillance cameras. then the formal council to be one of former intelligence of by azeri board talks about a cyber security bill making its way through congress.

and then a bloomberg news reporter discussing a new report released by house democrats have found gaps in the compound pharmacies across the country. "washington journal" is next. >> today the city of boston, the city of cambridge, and the city of what how can breathe a sigh of relief knowing that two perpetrators who have caused so much pain and anguish are no longer a threat to our personal safety. he is the special agent in charge of the fbi's boston field office. he is talking was in the headlines of all of the major newspapers since morning, here it is in "the boston globe." the second boston must that be the second marathon bombing suspect is captured.